Tayelet and City of David
Today Kitat Mayan
explored Tayelet and the city of David. We started off the day with a
lovely t'fillah session, enjoying the magnificence of Jerusalem and
praying at the same time. After a quick photo
shoot, we settled in the shade and began doing what we do best, making
coffee.While the coffee was brewing, we began to learn about Samuel, Saul, and
David.
After that, we ate lunch, and headed to the city of David. There, we went back in time to see ancient burial sites and even ancient toilets! We then acted out the story of Bat Sheva, and crawled through an underground stream.
After that, we ate lunch, and headed to the city of David. There, we went back in time to see ancient burial sites and even ancient toilets! We then acted out the story of Bat Sheva, and crawled through an underground stream.
Samuel is a prophet in
the tenakh, and is introduced in the book of Samuel. Like many of the heroes we
find in the tanakh, Samuel was born of a barren woman.
Samuel’s mother, Hannah, is known to be the person who came up with the idea of silent prayer, and she named her child Samuel because she “asked the Lord for him.” As Samuel grows older, he becomes the leader of Am Yisrael (the land of Israel). At the time, many societies were ruled under a monarchy. So when the people of Am Yisrael were not satisfied with Samuel, they approached him saying that they want a king. Samuel was old in age and his sons were corrupt, so he did not know who to make the king, until he one day runs into someone named Saul.
Samuel’s mother, Hannah, is known to be the person who came up with the idea of silent prayer, and she named her child Samuel because she “asked the Lord for him.” As Samuel grows older, he becomes the leader of Am Yisrael (the land of Israel). At the time, many societies were ruled under a monarchy. So when the people of Am Yisrael were not satisfied with Samuel, they approached him saying that they want a king. Samuel was old in age and his sons were corrupt, so he did not know who to make the king, until he one day runs into someone named Saul.
Saul was a king from the tribe of Benjamin, a tribe which was disliked for their corrupt actions. However, just as Moses, the tenakh tells us that Saul was “born good.” He was also a head taller than all of the people, which can be interpreted into being higher than the corrupt actions of the people. While Saul was king, he created a balance between the king and the prophets. This helped the people distinguish the king and God.He also created a checks and balances system with the prophets, was a great military leader, provided security and safety, united the tribes, and created a united monarchy. However, Saul also sacrificed an animal himself, instead of waiting for a prophet, and he did not completely annihilate their enemies, which goes against the collective memory of the Jewish people. As a result, Saul was allowed to remain King, but his offspring could not continue the dynasty. Saul is often not recognized/worshipped because he was not a member of the tribe of Judah.
After Saul came King David, from the tribe of Judah. While in a war with the Philistines, David was trying to keep his brothers safe and came upon Goliath, a giant. He defeated Goliath with no armor, and stones and sticks as his weapon. Saul claimed that whoever defeats Goliath will not only become rich, but will have the right to marry his daughter. The people adored David for defeating Goliath. They sung “Saul killed thousands, David killed tens of thousands.” David is best recognized for bringing the Ark of Covenant to Jerusalem, making Jerusalem the capital of the tribe of Judah, for his military strength, and for ending Saul’s family line. However, David also committed murder, adultery, and did not fight in the wars once he became king.
David becomes the King of Judah for seven years in Hevron, and he decides that it is time to find a new capital for his tribe, and he decides to take the city of Jebus, which is known today as Jerusalem. Jebus was on the border between the tribes of Judah and Benjamin, so moving there was another jab to Judah’s rival tribe. Jebus was the chosen city for many reasons. First, moving the capital there would not only unite the tribes of the first two kings, but would unite the 12 tribes as a whole. It also has religious significance because it was near Mount Moriah, the mountain where the binding of Isaac took place. It is also the only city with its own source of freshwater and had three valleys that could be used for defense.
In the city of David,
there are many archaeological findings. First, there were coins from the
seventh century that were found, which teaches about who once lived on the
land, and their advancement in technology. There were also arrow heads
found with an inscription that links us back to the time of Hannukah.
There was also a piece of clay found marked with “Legion X” or “Legion
10,”which teaches about the army and how the military ran in previous times.
Personally, I question
if all the stories in the tenakh are true. However, hearing
that there is evidence of many people, places, and stories or the tenakh is
starting to shift my view point. And being able to walk through the spots
where these events are said to happen brings collective memory. I am able
to picture myself in the ancient City of David, and I feel as if I am there
when David defeats Goliath.
So Kitat Maayan, do you
believe that both King Saul and King David were fair leaders, or do you think
that their mistakes leave more of a mark than their accomplishments? Do you
think one King is more honorable than the other? And if so, why?
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Dani Gottlieb




This is a hard question Dani!! I do think both King David and King Saul were fair leaders. I think their accomplishments of bringing two rivaling tribes together out ways some of the mistakes they had made. Personally, I think King David accomplished more than King Saul. But I think that King David's power sort of went to his head torwards the end of his reign (refusing to have children wiyh Michal, as well as refusing to fight in the war). While the only wrong that Saul was accused of was not completely wiping out an army. Overall I think they are equally honorable leaders.
ReplyDeleteI think the fact that the jewish people had kings like David and Saul are amazing accomplishments. And that they were able to unify the tribes under a monarchy is something that overshadows their mistakes and low points. King David is more honorable that Saul. Even him defeating the philistines to become king put his importance ahead of Saul, and that was a single move while he wasn't even royalty.
ReplyDeleteGreat question! Both David and Saul were accomplished leaders by uniting the 12 tribes under one monarchy and keeping them from civil war. However, I can't agree that David was more honorable than Saul. David who was able to defeat all of their enemies was not able to keep his values and morals. If it is true that the king is to have the Tanach by his side, he obviously ignored that it is against Jewish morals to sleep with another man's woman, commit murder, and to not fight with his men in battle. All of which are listed and explained in the Tanach. Although Saul performed a sacrifice with out a prophet present and was not able to annihilate his enemies, all of Saul's actions were of good intention and I believe that he acted to the best of his abilities in his role as king.
ReplyDeleteI think that both King Saul and King David were fair leaders. I think that because being able to bring together 12 tribes would be something very hard to do, but they did it so it over powers the mistakes the had made. I think that they are both honorable because they both made mistakes but were still able to do amazing things.
ReplyDeleteThis is such a hard question but it's so good. Personally, I believe that hey we're both far leaders. They both were reuniting the tribes of Israel. Both of them had done some bad things and made some mistakes, but I think that the good outweighs the bad in this situation. King David was good but everything kind of got to his head. Saul was jealous. They both had their flaws but as I said, the good outweighed the bad.
ReplyDeleteI think both King Saul and King David were fair leaders. Yes, they both committed mistakes, but both of them were able to lead the Jews, they both unified the 12 tribes, and that itself is an accomplishment of epic proportions.
ReplyDeleteI think that both Kings were fair leaders, and also I feel like their accomplishments were on par. Obviously both made many mistakes and sometimes let the power go to their head, but if not for both, the 12 tribes might not have all come together.
ReplyDeleteAlthough both leaders were fair and just, and went through life with few moral stumbles in regard to their reign, neither were without fault. Saul, for example, ignored the checks and balances and performed a sacrifice without a prophet. He also tried to have David killed or removed when he felt threatened by him. David, committed adultery and then second degree murder. Not so great. However, David acknowledged his wrong doings and did T'shuva; he admitted to himself, the world, and God that he was wrong. So although both leaders messed up, I'd say David was the more honorable as he had the decency to admit is shortcomings.
ReplyDeleteGood question Dani! I believe both king saul and king David had their good and bad ways of ruling. Overall the Jewish people seem to remember king David for all his good accomplishments and king saul for his bad deeds/mistakes. In my opinion king saul did sin but he had good intentions but those intentions were against the words of god. King David also committed murder, adultery, and stayed back while he sent his troops to war. So, all in all neither king was better nor lesser than the other.
ReplyDeleteGreat job Dani! Your post was very informative and a good question too. I think that both Kings had their goods and bass. While King David achieved more than king Saul he also committed worser crimes. I believe overall both kings were pretty good and one isn't better than the other
ReplyDeleteThis is a great question and a great blog post! Personally, the bias in the Tanakh for King David bothers me, so I am almost tempted to say that King Saul was the fairer king, but that would also take into account my own bias. I believe that in the context of every other ruler in the world at this time, they were both great leaders who both deserve to be remembered, but compared to each other it is not a fully fair comparison. While King David got many chances for things he maybe should not have, King Saul did not get even a second chance. He could have been the greatest King if he had been given a more fair shot, but gods preference was clear, as was the people's.
ReplyDeleteGood job dani! Well this is a pretty hard question and it requires a lot of thinking about the roles of both the leaders. Honestly, I do think that they were both fair leaders. Being a leader is very hard, I believe that being a good leader mostly has to do with the quality of a person.. so I would say that King Saul was a better leader because he was a better person, regardless of if he did better things than David. As we know, Saul was "born good."
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